Notoria
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« on: August 16, 2010, 06:50:49 PM » |
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Hello, and thank you for your time.
Yesterday, I recieved the error which is named in the subject. I've looked through YouTube and found Britec's channel, which was of great help. It didn't fix everything, though, and I'm still confused.
Insert USB Stick; Done without a problem
Double-click HPUSBFW.EXE in this directory; No problem.
Check "Create a DOS startup disk" and "using DOS system files located at" then press the grey button with the "..."; Same as the above.
A box will come up asking you which folder to select, point it to the "dos system files" folder; Same as above.
Press OK; Press Start; Press Yes; Let it run for just a few minutes till a new box comes up; Press OK; Press Close; Same as above.
Open the "putonusb" folder, copy all the files, paste them onto the usb stick (just in the root of the drive, like E:\); Same as above.
Eject the USB Stick; Remove it from your computer; Same as above.
Place it into the computer with the "NTLDR is missing" issue, reboot it. Same as above.
You will see the Windows 98 screen pop up for a second, then you will see a black screen with white letters prompting you to "replace boot sector of the drive C: (y/n)", press the y key; I pressed Y, but the problem comes after this.
It will go to a C:\ prompt, reboot the computer by pressing Ctrl+Alt+Del; No, this is not what happened. It went back to NTLDR is missing.
Now you should be able to select the different options 1-10; No options.
I followed all the instructions clearly, but it still did not work. At the result of pressing Y, as you can read above, it took me back to the NTLDR is missing screen. I tried again and again to restart and get the same Y/N question, but the same thing happens. "NTLDR is missing" When I took the USB out and plugged it back into my Vista computer, which I am typing with right now, I found that there was a "bootlog" readme. I didn't see that in the default list of files I had, so I deleted it. I haven't tried again yet, but I think the results will be the same anyway. I also deleted all the files in my USB drive and replaced them with fresh copies.
EDIT: At one point, it said "NTLDR is not found: press any key to restart." I pressed A, B, C, whichever key, but it just gave me "NTLDR is not found: press any key to restart" over and over again. I ended up with maybe 50 lines of that same message.
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« Last Edit: August 16, 2010, 06:54:06 PM by Notoria »
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MrTicker
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« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2010, 01:08:38 AM » |
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 notoria Welcome to the Forum Does your system BIOS have an option that permits booting from USB, and if so have you enabled it? You can enter the BIOS screen at start up by pressing the F1,F2, ESC or DEL key depending on your PC. Check you documentation if you are not sure. This could be the reason you are unable to boot from your USB stick. Another way to fix this problem is to use the Recovery Console, available by booting from your XP install CD and choosing R for Repair when given the option to do so. Follow the instructions in this tutorial on the Forum at this link: http://www.briteccomputers.co.uk/forum/tutorials-and-how-to/how-to-fix-ntldr-is-missing/msg3614/#msg3614 Chees,HTH, ticker P.S. Please read this post http://www.briteccomputers.co.uk/forum/windows-xp-support/please-read-before-posting-745/
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davedudeit
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« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2010, 04:53:09 AM » |
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Note if there is not windows os installed u can nto fix the problem till after the isterlation.
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MrTicker
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« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2010, 09:17:09 AM » |
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Hi there davedudeit, If you where to read the OP's initial post in its entirety, you will see that nowhere does it say that the Operating System is either MISSING or NOT FOUND. If the operating system was missing or not found, the following are two of the possible errors, for example, that you would see on boot up: Error message 1: Operating system not found. Error message 2: Missing Operating System
On the other hand, When you start your computer to the Recovery Console to recover functionality, you may receive an error message that resembles the following error message: Setup did not find any hard drives installed on your computer. See this link http://support.microsoft.com/kb/321626The error that the OP is getting, NTLDR is missing refers to a SINGLE file not a complete operating system and the advice given to resolve this issue is the correct advice. Cheers,HTH, ticker |
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Notoria
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« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2010, 08:41:17 PM » |
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Thank you for replying. I am unsure of what documentation to check for accessing the BIOS screen. I do know that Esc opens my boot menu, F1 opens my Setup, F10 opens my System Recovery, and F12 says "Run from I-" and it cuts off there. I'm not sure if that I is actually an L, an H, or anything else with a straight line.
I clicked F1, and on the top, it said BIOS setup utility, would that be the BIOS screen?
EDIT: I've read the link to "Please Read Before Posting." I'm sorry, but I don't know how to get the details of my computer other than taking it apart. That will take a while, and I'll get to it ASAP.
The link on how to fix ntldr, I have already read, but it does not make any sense to me. I was hoping for a more direct hands-on process to help me fix this problem. All I know is that it has happened twice.
Does the NTLDR error mean my computer is finally breaking down after years of service? Or is it a common error that can easily be fixed and prevented?
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« Last Edit: August 17, 2010, 08:45:08 PM by Notoria »
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Britec
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« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2010, 03:04:13 AM » |
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 Notoria F1 is for your BIOS and NTLDR error is a very common error and can be fixed
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Notoria
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« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2010, 12:25:28 PM » |
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Hello? Guys? I'm posting this because some of the helpful people might think this is resolved because the last poster was Britec, but I'm still confused.
Where in my BIOS Setup Utility can I permit USB booting? I still do not know what documentation I should be looking for.
I'm afraid USB booting is my only way of fixing this, as I have no Windows Bootable Disc or Windows Recovery Disc.
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« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2010, 02:44:29 PM » |
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Hi,
Here is a bit more info for you.
Many newer computers detect the USB device as a hard drive (USB-HDD0),In which case, you can press a specific key (F2, F10, F11 or ESC) during system post to access the "Boot Menu". Select your USB DISK from the Boot Menu and resume startup.Make sure that you have inserted your USB stick first.
For example,when I boot a Toshiba Netbook I get two options at the bottom of the screen, F2 to enter the BIOS or F12 to bring up a "Boot Menu" from which I can select the USB stick to boot from, so look for a similar message when you restart your computer.
If your system is a bit older or uses a simplified BIOS, you may not have a Boot Menu option. In this case you will need to make the system detect and boot your USB device by changing the settings in the BIOS. In your case press F1 when booting up and look for an entry similar to these: USB-HDD " Preferred boot method", and enable it if needed, also check for other ways that the USB option might be worded. In some BIOS versions, it's called "Removable Devices" or "External Devices".
If your BIOS lists the USB memory stick as a hard drive, you should select it as the 1st boot device in the BIOS Boot Order screen using the arrow keys.
Old computers made around 2000 did not have this feature so you will not find a "USB Device" boot order listing in BIOS.
NTLDR.SYS is a really common problem and is a straightforward fix. If you still cannot get your computer to boot from your USB stick then you could maybe borrow a Windows XP Install CD and use that to fix things for you.
Cheers,HTH,
ticker
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Notoria
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« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2010, 01:59:27 PM » |
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Hello, I have the Boot Menu option, which I used on my first attempt. The one I picked was Sandisk Cruzer, which I have reformatted with a program Miles Comer, from http://ntldrismissing.com/When I pressed Enter while the choice was Sandisk Cruzer, I did not recieve a list from 1-10. Instead, it just asked if I wanted to replace the boot sector of the drive C: I pressed Y, and after that, it just took me back to the NTLDR is missing error. |
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MrTicker
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« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2010, 02:41:14 PM » |
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Hi notoria,
After making your USB bootable again and then booting up with it as you say, you was then asked if you wanted to replace the boot sector of the drive C: to which you pressed Yes. This is correct. You will not see the 1-10 list, it will not appear until you have rebooted with the USB still inserted in the computer.
It is how the program on your USB is meant to work.
So do a reboot selecting your Sandisk Cruzer stick to boot from and if you are asked the same question as above again,answer Yes and then reboot,choosing Sandisk again and you should see the list. Hope this is clear for you and not too confusing.
Cheers,HTH,
ticker
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Notoria
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« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2010, 03:37:56 PM » |
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Hi, MrTicker,
I did exactly what you did. This time, I did not remove the USB drive from the computer. I left it in during the whole process. After I pressed Yes, I then pressed Ctrl+Alt+Delete.(Was I just supposed to hard-shutdown?)
Once again, it took me to the NTLDR is missing error screen. This is very confusing for me, because I'm following the instructions closely and exactly, but it's still not working.
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Notoria
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« Reply #12 on: August 20, 2010, 03:44:30 PM » |
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I haven't pulled out the Sandisk Cruzer USB drive since the start of this problem. Now when I am in my Boot Menu and press Enter for my Sandisk Cruzer, it says "NTLDR Is Missing; Press any key to restart" instead of Ctrl+Alt+Delete to restart phrase. Something is strange, though. When I press any key, it doesn't restart, it just gives me the error again. The same as the first problem
Should I reformat my USB drive and once again put in all the files I need?
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Notoria
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« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2010, 03:53:19 PM » |
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Yes, Britec, those are the files I used since the start of all this. I have done some research, and I'm following everything right, I suppose, but my computer just won't be good!  |
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davedudeit
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« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2010, 02:48:33 AM » |
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This is a tad confusing.
why can we not use a disk ?
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